Saturday, Dec 16, 2017
Money Up Front
Ryder Lake residents' battle for high
Susan Van Luyn
normally plans their builds 5 – 10 years ahead. There are no plans
to bring Purefibre
to Ryder Lake – at all. It can only be done, custom, with the
already proposed contribution from the Ryder Lake Community.
Once paid, the build could possibly start as quickly as 6 months
after the contract is signed. The specific date would depend on how
they were able to move other builds around, in order to make us a
The install, if it were to go ahead, is NOT on a “per home” basis,
it would be available to the entire community of 373+ homes …every
single one who gives TELUS permission to “drop” cable on their
property (whether they contributed to the 580K or not)…and
includes all the way to each home, not just at the road.
Just because you give TELUS permission to install Purefibre cable on
your property, does not mean you have to purchase services (ie:
phone, TV or internet). In fact, it sounds like there are no
“contracts” anymore. Services can be purchased, changed, or
cancelled at any time.
These permissions will be accepted online, possibly by mail or
phone, and in-person.
Because of the “proprietary” nature and custom offer of our build,
TELUS cannot put these answers in writing, as this is unique to our
community and should not be compared with other builds.
There will be no “discounts” on services purchased/provided. The
“discounted payback period” mentioned in our proposal letter was in
reference to an accounting term used internally for TELUS
calculations. It has to do with their capital budgeting
procedures…regarding when THEY will get paid back for their
The proposal letter states “would consider building the network” if
the community comes up with the $. “Consider” suggests the decision
is not final...is there a chance that even if we come up with the $,
TELUS might not do the build? Answer: the word “consider” is used
to legally protect TELUS, just in case something huge and
significant changes, and they are not able to do the build. The
chances of that happening are incredibly small. IF it did happen,
our $ would be refunded 100%.
“The estimated contribution amount quoted takes into account the
average number of subscribers…” The contribution amount was not
calculated based on 223 interested homes. It was calculated based
on an average, using an Economic Model, including the estimated
total cost of the build and the 373 households in the community.
The legal contract to be signed sounds like a simple, point form
document, which outlines what TELUS is responsible for (what we will
get) and what we as a community are responsible for, ie: what we are
paying. It will be signed by one community champion, on behalf of
the entire community.
“The final decision to build and schedule would depend on TELUS’
capital expense investment profile & prioritization process ….” This
statement is simply a disclaimer to protect TELUS, just in case
something major changes. It will not, however, change the cost they
quoted us. Even if they start the build, get into the ground, then
determine it’s going to be way more expensive than they thought, we
will still only pay the original price.
There are significantly higher costs to bury their cable. Our
community will require approx. 25% of the cable to be buried, and
approx. 75% will be in the air. We have huge lots, with many houses
being acres apart, which will require more fibre cable and
significantly more labour than their normal builds. That’s why it
is so expensive.
Regarding grants, TELUS can help with support regarding lobbying
local governments. As a community, we should be looking into
anything that is available for communications and infrastructure at
the municipal, provincial and even federal levels. The Fraser
Valley Regional District was mentioned, as well as Gas Tax Funding >
Federal, getting a not-for-profit status, grants re: Women &
Technology > federal, enquiring with the mayor’s office, or possibly
even some type of corporate sponsors.
Health & Safety concerns are our strongest points: Security can be
challenging because some alarm companies have said they can’t
monitor their systems, AND there are people up here who use sleep
apnea devices that are monitored remotely. Some cannot have their
devices monitored, because their network does not have coverage.
Instead, they have to drive their devices to Abbotsford, for
feedback and adjustments after the fact. Also, people involved in
car accidents up here have had to hike to the nearest home to use
their landline, because their cell phones did not have reception.
Imagine if someone was seriously injured and could not walk!?
Specifics on services, costs and bundling can be found at telus.com/chilliwack …please
ensure you reference “Chilliwack”, as the TELUS price system is
changing and the Chilliwack page has already been updated to reflect
the correct new prices for our area.
Most expensive service: $290 per month for everything. Average
package most people purchase is $145 and includes 250 meg + a modest
package of TV channels. (Right now my husband and I pay $250 per
month for TV plus terrible internet, so we would save $100 per
month, meaning we’d be paid back in approx. 2 years, IF WE GET NO
GRANTS. Some people up here have reported paying $200 - $800 per
month just for their internet!
Once again, our properties will be more sellable and have a higher
value if we have reliable services up here. Some people have moved
off the hill due to poor service, some have backed out of purchasing
once they found out how limited internet & cell phone coverage is.
Final notes: Fibre services are 10-20% cheaper. Fibre has a much
longer lifespan than copper cable, is stronger and faster. TELUS
will be 100% responsible for maintaining and repairing the Purefibre
system. TELUS has a partner loyalty program with reward points
(like airmiles etc.) which might also help offset the personal cost
of their services a little ($ back in our pockets).
I would think the only questions now, should be: if those who are
interested will proceed and how we will pursue grants and
fundraising. Those not interested, for whatever reason, will simply
not give permission to install. We do not need to hear arguments.
TO ALL: PLEASE NOTE, AS OUR RYDER LAKE FACEBOOK PAGE IS A SOCIAL
MEDIA PLATFORM THAT MAY BE MONITORED, negative input could damage
the efforts of those of us trying to bring a beneficial upgrade to
our community (we almost lost this opportunity due to a couple of
bad posts). Please keep negative comments to yourselves if you are
tempted to post something contrary to our efforts. Thank you
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